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claret on my shirt
10:42 Tue Sep 13
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DG seems solely concerned with having a 66k stadium as if it's some kind of dick extension to have a bigger ground than Arsenal and the spuds.
Also a lot of things seem very rushed to me, lack of seats initially in the back 3 rows, being able to see all the workings of the retractable seating, the running track being the wrong colour and loads more.
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CaptainBlueAndClaret
10:45 Tue Sep 13
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claret on my shirt 9:03 Tue Sep 13
Club Statement on Watford / Stadium issues
RE: "How to talk for ever and say fuck all , your views please"
IMHO, the Police must be looking at this fiasco and thanking their lucky stars that they are not involved in clearing the shambles up inside the ground.
When the Police read these 'gobble-de-gook' announcements from the Duchess of Knightsbridge and G&S, that are high on self praising waffle, to try and baffle the ignorant, IMHO, the Police must be shaking their heads in disbelief...
Like many, I have read the reports on KUMB about the stewards from the Boleyn Ground being ignored and resigning. Lowering their wages, lowering their self esteem, the loyal servants of West Ham Utd are leaving to be replaced by, in some cases, by Millwall supporters working as stewards at the Olympic Stadium...
If that isn't a recipe for disaster, then IMHO, small wonder the Police don't want to get involved!
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RichyP
11:03 Tue Sep 13
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OTB, what T&C's are those? Serious question i'm not argueing, as i wasn't shown or given any T&C's when i purchased my ST, do you know where i can get a copy?
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Pub Bigot
11:20 Tue Sep 13
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They can do what they like. Their insistence on doing things on the cheap has cost supporters their opportunity to watch their club.
There's no way back for these arseholes for me. I've never been a huge fan of them and now they've affectively started a civil war, I'd be more than happy to do what we could to force them out.
The stadium is an abomination. With them gone and new custodians in, maybe they'd have the foresight to plan and attempt at accommodating every type of supporter. Celtic have, they do it in Germany, but the Premier League and these cretinous cunts will do anything to Americanise and sanitise our game.
They called war, they've got one.
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ATHammer
11:21 Tue Sep 13
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I have stood at West Ham games, home and away, all my life. My seat at the London Arena is in a block where few, if any stand. When I bought my seat I was initially offered a seat that required Nelson's telescope just to see the pitch. Entirely inconsistent with my old chicken run seat. I kicked off and got a seat which is OK; view is fine and, lack of banter aside, I can live with it.
I have no issue with change and progress, but the current situation is change without progress:
Whoever is responsible is largely irrelevant now. Club blame stadium; stadium blame club; club write to, and blame us. I don't fucking care, I had no fucking say in how the stadium is organised or how the ticketing was managed so why write to me? The club and stadium owners have a collective responsibility for this mess which needs sorting out, they need to shut the fuck up and act:
1: Sort Out the Stewards, they are incompetent, antagonistic cunts.
2: Sort out segregation, beating the shit out of Chelsea; Tottenham; Manchester United, etc. might have been fun for some in the 70's but it is old now and those times have thankfully gone. If memory serves the real fun was away anyway.
3: Never shit on your own doorstep but don't let anyone take liberties, that includes the club (bond scheme anyone?)
4:Acknowledge that football is an emotional experience and West Ham are passionate fans. Just because we like to swear, stand at football, occasionally get emotional and have a bit of fun (Live entertainment?) we do not need a semi literate threatening letter from the club. We are entitled to a bit of respect for our loyalty, support, to be acknowledged and heard when the club has fucked up in selling tickets without recognising our culture, differing customer needs and when the management of a new stadium falls woefully short of acceptable standards. Our culture has been around a lot longer than me and our current owners and it would be nice to think that culture will outlast this current fiasco.
5: Arrange for like minded fans to move to locations where, if they want, they can stand and not be bothered by more placid fans or moronic stewards.
6: Equally those who want (need) to sit or have children who they do not want to have their view obscured by a hairy arse or to be subjected to foul language have identified locations where they can enjoy the game and atmosphere without fear. (Family Stand?)
7: Make the fucking place safe! How on earth did they get a safety certificate if plod won't police the place because of lack of a suitable communication network. State of the art or done on the cheap to the extent that the Met think it is unsafe for them? HOW THE FUCK IS IT OK FOR US THEN?
8: Make it fun for all, if people want to sit, fine, they should be able to do so. If they want to bring kids it should be safe and enjoyable. If they want to stand so be it.
9:No fucker should be let into the ground under any circumstances wearing an unrelated club shirt or colours, sitting in our stadium when that club are not playing.
10: There should be places where standing and swearing, whilst not condoned, is accepted as part of life (as in most grounds). If the board do not believe this, how many of their publicity posters showing the fans has us sitting down? It is simply bollocks to deny the emotion of the game and fans.
If the stadium owners and the club board can't acknowledge their errors and constructively address them then Stratford isn't progress, it is simply fucking wrong.
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On The Ball
11:27 Tue Sep 13
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RichyP 11:03 Tue Sep 13
No idea mate. I'd imagine there were some in the bits they were sent with? I'm sure they always do. I've no idea, I binned the lot.
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grasshopper
11:32 Tue Sep 13
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This is just getting ridiculous. If u pay for a season ticket or match ticket you have the right to go as you please so long as you are not showing antisocial behaviour. Standing up is not a crime or antisocial behaviour and these stupid statements make it sound like it is. People go to football matches to enjoy themselves responsibily, only a minority go to cause trouble and there is usually no smoke without fire. If the standing is an issue, segregate the areas and do it in a swift responsible fashion and let the supports choose their preference. What is the big deal? If this shit continues they will ruin the great support of this club.
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On The Ball
11:37 Tue Sep 13
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ATHammer - whatever mistakes they've made aside, the law says we can't stand, so they have to warn us not to. They did it at UP several times. They can't encourage it.
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Mart O
11:38 Tue Sep 13
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''it would be nice to think that culture will outlast this current fiasco.''
Isn't this precisely what they're betting against ?
Anyway, not to worry, Bigot's getting his pitchfork out...;-)
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On The Ball
11:39 Tue Sep 13
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grasshopper 11:32 Tue Sep 13
It's nothing to do with the Club or the stadium owners. It's the rules.
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,
11:42 Tue Sep 13
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grasshopper, explain to me how standing in front of seated fans is not ante social please?
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Pub Bigot
11:45 Tue Sep 13
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Comma, why have the move organisers had the foresight to keep those from the BML, TBL and the CR next to the aways fans at UP together?
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gank
11:52 Tue Sep 13
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On The Ball - which 'law' is that, then?
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only one leg
11:52 Tue Sep 13
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Any statement involving the words moving and forward should be dismissed as claptrap.
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On The Ball
12:11 Wed Sep 14
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gank - I meant rules! I remembered on the second post.
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Mike Oxsaw
12:19 Wed Sep 14
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On The Ball 11:37 Tue Sep 13
I don't think the LAW says we cannot stand, but the applied interpretation of that law (i.e just rules based on an INTERPRETATION of that law) as applied by a private enterprise say we can't.
I'd be very surprised if someone ever ended up in a court of law for the crime of "persistent standing".
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Mart O
12:20 Wed Sep 14
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You may or may not have read this about the airwave radio but I just did: what a shocking clusterfuck. No one looks good here.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37348308
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marty feldman
12:24 Wed Sep 14
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As usual the 3 stooges are passing the buck .why dont the club demand the right to hire the police and proper stewards out the clubs coffers on matchdays .its good pr if we offered to do it .but as usual with this mob its all about cutting corners . The sooner they sell up the better .
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Sven Roeder
12:29 Wed Sep 14
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As I understand it's the ground owners who have the responsibility to have this airwave system in the stadium and they have obviously cut costs by trying not to have it.
I understand they have now been bounced into it and will work with the police to install it.
They had the bloke who was in charge of stadium security at the Olympics on the BBC London tv news and he seemed astonished that it wasn't there as a matter of course.
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Tomshardware
12:31 Wed Sep 14
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Stand in front of me and I will warn you that if you don't sit down I'll give you a bunch of fives.
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normannomates
12:33 Wed Sep 14
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They're blameless as always.
Keeping banning bods you slimy lying cunts and you will feel the backlash.
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